Same old story, different fandom.

[annakovsky]

Ugh, you guys, the Leslie-bashing is already starting in Parks and Rec fandom, and I feel so weary. She hasn't even broken up with Ben (yet? I'm unspoiled, keep me that way!), but I feel like if she does in season 4, the fandom is going to be a nightmare hellscape of misogyny, and it's upsetting to me. On my Murtaugh List: listening to sexist bullshit that seems to assume that any woman who cares about her career or even her own happiness over a dude is an uppity bitch. I am too old for that shit.

Ladies bashing ladies. When are we going to cool it on that, fandom?

(Haha, the best, most nonsensical bashing so far: I keep seeing people complain that because Leslie said, "If this turns into something real" to Ben after they had been dating a week, she is not taking the relationship with the appropriate level of seriousness. Lolololol you guys have met a human being before, right? EVEN IF SHE WAS MENTALLY PLANNING THEIR WEDDING, SHE WOULD SAY THAT SO AS NOT TO SEEM LIKE A WEIRDO. But no, try saying "When we get married" to someone you've been dating a week, see how that goes over.)

(All the Leslie-bashing from Ben's POV is starting to make me hate Ben, so I think I'm going to have to, like, quit reading fic/watching leslie_ben/following some tumblrs. Otherwise I am totally going to end up writing spitefic where Leslie breaks up with Ben for Ron.)

(Which, honestly, I have been really in the mood for Leslie/Ron fic lately anyway. Whyyy is there not more, they're so married! Blatant mustache discrimination.)

But whatever, the season 3 DVDs came out yesterday! Delightful things from the stuff I've watched so far:

1) The gag reel's revelation that Adam Scott clearly hates Rob Lowe's guts, and that Nick Offerman probably does too. (Offerman is harder to read, but omg, Adam, are you even trying to hide your irritation??) This makes me like both of them SO MUCH MORE THAN I ALREADY DID, Rob Lowe, you are such a jag, I wish you would get out of this otherwise delightful cast.

2) Mike Schur said that he's been friends with Rashida Jones since 1993. THAT WAS THEIR FRESHMAN YEAR AT COLLEGE. OH MY GOD, THAT IS AMAZING. I want weird Harvard RPF of them now where she's way out of his league but he has a huge crush on her, and they listen to Neutral Milk Hotel and go to Lamont together and complain about fires on the red line. Also now I am wondering if this is how Poehler knows Rashida, since Schur wrote for SNL and produced Weekend Update, etc. That is adorable and delightful.

3) Ugh also the commentaries and gag reel totally made me ship Amy Poehler/Adam Scott a little bit. What's next, am I going to write JKras/Jenna Fischer fic, ugh wretchery.

4) Pratt getting a boner when Aubrey slapped him omg. Haha, I don't know if he was in character, but it kind of seemed like not? EITHER WAY, I AM CHOOSING TO BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED FOR REAL, WHATEVER.

5) Adam Scott trying to think of a name for a hot club and coming up with RASCALS. I am still laughing today. Nerdddddddddd.

6) Also other stuff, but I feel like this is getting boring.


Okay, enough fandom stuff for now. In other news, I dyed my hair blond, bought tickets to visit my brothers in Seattle later this month, and am trying to deal with my depression over the 40 degree drop in temperature and constant rain this week. I hate when summer ends.

Comments

[jolielaide.livejournal.com]

Ugh to ladybashing, and *eyes closed* to spoilers, but whoah, hey, yay to Seattle! When?! Do you know that Seattle is 3 hours from Portland? I'M JUST SAYING.

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

Ooooh, that is true! I'm going to be flying in on Sept 22 and out on the 27th, so it's not for super long, but it would be awesome to maybe work out getting together somehow! I feel like I haven't seen you guys in forever. Haha, probably because I haven't, I guess. It would be awesome to remedy that!

(ALSO I am so impressed with you guys' long run! Fod was telling me about it and it sounded SO INSANE AND AMAZING.)

[peopleareshapes.livejournal.com]

Oh jeeze, I haven't seen any Leslie bashing yet, but I will GO TO TOWN if it crops up on my dash/FL this season.

I'm having a hard time dealing with P&R fandom in any capacity rn, all the spams, all the meta, all the flurry over the extras is like P&R: starring Adam Scott. And this is coming from a quasi-stan. I had to tumblr savior his name otherwise I will burn out on him like I did with Andrew Garfield and so many other peeps.

That said, OMG ADAM/AMY SO CUTE ON THE COMMENTARIESSSSSS. Boingy.

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

RIGHT? I naively thought Leslie Knope could escape it, being the protagonist and superhero, but misogyny's superpowers are also impressive, I guess. Luckily it's not super widespread, but I can see where it's going and it's so depressing. I need to unfollow some tumblrs and stop reading badfic, ugh.

Oh my God, I know, I love Adam Scott but the stanning for him is driving me up a goddamn wall. Tumblr savioring him is a really good idea, actually. YEAH, HIS FACE IS CUTE, BUT IT DOESN'T CURE CANCER, PEOPLE, LET'S ALL GET A GRIP AND REMEMBER THIS IS AN ENSEMBLE CAST.

Ugh, right? Adam and Amyyyyy. Your faceparts can go up or down!

[frey-at-last.livejournal.com]

I am cackling just a little bit on the inside because it always makes me feel better (MORE SECURE) when younger, formerly idyllic fandoms hit that bend in the road where everything suddenly becomes fraught with controversy and bitterness. (Though obviously girl-bashing over a pairing is the most annoying way for this to happen.) Um, I guess I don't like to see other people happy with their toys, especially if I am not. And personally I prefer Leslie/Ron.

Ugh, Rob Lowe is so annoying ON THE SHOW, I can't imagine having to act with him. Dude, you hopped off the boat when you left The West Wing because ~it wasn't enough about you~ so suck it up.

Have fun in Seattle! How long are you there for?

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

HEE, well, I understand that, I'm always so annoyed at any fandom that I'm in that I really enjoy it when other people are annoyed at theirs. We're all in this together! Haha, such a BOFQ, ridic. And Leslie/Ron is the BEST -- haha and it's totally the Liz/Jack of P&R so I'm not surprised. :P

Right?? Rob Lowe is the worsttttttt. Remember when he submitted himself for Lead Actor for TWW and then did it again with Parks? Lololol what a dbag. I'm hoping he quits the show because it's not about him soon. (Haha, in the gag reel his phone rings during a scene, and he hams it up about it and then totally NAMEDROPS and Adam Scott looks so unimpressed, it's amazing.)

I'm still so mad I didn't make it to Seattle before you went overseas! I'm only going to be there for like a long weekend, though, basically -- Sept 22-27, a Thurs-Tues. It should be fun!

[rudhampaiel.livejournal.com]

For the past two years, October has been waaay unseasonably warm, so I am praying this current bout of cold weather is just a fluke. (If it's not, I will be so sad.)

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

Ugh, I really hope so too, global warming has to intervene to stop this, right? I just don't see why we can't GRADUALLY ease into fall instead of going from 100 degrees and sunny one day to 59 degrees and rainy two days later. D:

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

NOTHING HAS GIVEN ME MORE JOY IN THE LAST 48 HOURS THAN THAT TUMBLR POST ABOUT EVERYONE HATING ROB LOWE IN THE BLOOPERS. Is it unhealthy that I almost as much joy in hating Rob Lowe as I do in loving Leslie Knope? Because I do.

LESLIE KNOPE IS THE BEST PERSON EVER TO (NOT ACTUALLY) EXIST AND I WILL STOP THIS MOTHERFUCKING CAR AND TURN IT AROUND IF FANDOM FORGETS THAT IN SEASON 4.

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

HAHA OMG RIGHT? ROB LOWE'S EXPECTATIONS VERSUS ROB LOWE'S REALITY. I think hating him SHOULD bring you joy, remember that time he taped himself fucking an underage girl? What a prince among men. Today I am just imagining Adam and Offerman in a trailer, bitching about how much they hate that guy all the time. DEEEELIGHTFUL.

SERIOUSLY, HOW COULD ANYONE BE ANGRY AT LESLIE KNOPE???? Or pick Ben over her?? Ben, I love you, but tbh you don't have that much going for you and you were lucky to get her.

[greenfish.livejournal.com]

Gosh, you have totally sold me, I really want to get the DVDs now just to listen to these commentaries. You have also managed to make me want to bone Mr. Adam Scott even more, thank you very much (I'm trying to figure out the logistics of that, being that I'm a girl, but you know - details.)

Um, so yeah. I would read Leslie/Ron if you wrote it. Or Leslie/Ben/Ron. Or Ben/Ron. Hee hee. Just sayin'. Can you tell I like Ron?

Also, I don't get people that have to go so crazy over this relationship stuff - maybe I'm just not as invested as I used to be in fandom, but is it really the end of the world if they break up? I mean, they're pretty much awesome together, so it would definitely be sad, but I feel like at some point they'd get together again because they couldn't stay away, that's sort of the way I play it in my head, anyway.

Also please do not tell me you don't think that John has crushed on Jenna at some point. Yes, RPF about it does kind of make me feel like a weeaboo. BUT, to be fair, a lot of us at some point form crushes on our cute and charming co-workers, whether we can help it or not. And yerrrr I speak from experience. Not that anything ever comes of it (OK, once and the guy ended up unceremoniously dumping my ass by never calling me again). So, yeah, does Adam Scott totally love Amy (and vice versa?) I believe it! They are the cutest people ever.

Looks like I'll be makin' that trip to Target in the next day or so.... :P

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

You should totally get the DVDs, they were a delight! Though there weren't enough commentaries, sadly. DD: But the ones with just Amy and Adam and Mike Schur were GRATE.

Yessssssss, Leslie/Ron! AND I WOULD BE SO INTO LESLIE/RON/BEN. Reverse Big Love AU? Ron is the greatest.

I never get it when people are that invested in a 'ship either -- I mean, I really like them together! But probably if they break up it would be more interesting anyway! Also haha, seriously, clearly they're the endgame here, soooo yeah.

Heeeee, oh man, I totally believe that John crushed on Jenna back in the day, I just hate being one of those people who ships a canon ship and then feels compelled to write fic for the actors too. Though honestly I do get a charge from it -- I read an article about Roseanne Barr the other day in which she said she had a crush on John Goodman when they were in their show together and I was weirdly REALLY INTO THAT. Hahaha, oh dear. Coworker crushes, though, adorbs.

[mardia.livejournal.com]

I'm not really into Parks and Recs fandom, weirdly because I love the show too much to really let fandom ruin it for me, which feels like an awful thing to say, but apparently people are bashing Leslie now, and just--HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE.

Ohhh, Rob Lowe, no. OH ROB LOWE NO. I feel like I'm in the minority in that I think he's actually a good actor, but the whole Emmys thing was just, and now the gag reel and basically I'm like, "Let me never hear about Rob Lowe again off-camera so I can still enjoy my show in peace."

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

God, I honestly totally understand not wanting to get into the fandom because you like the show, I am seriously considering quitting P&R fandom entirely because I like the show so much. Except I like reading things about the show. UGH CONUNDRUM. Oh well.

(To be fair, there isn't a LOT of Leslie bashing, but even a tiny bit is too much! Get it together, fandom!)

I totally agree that Rob Lowe's a good actor -- I enjoyed him on The West Wing, and he's pretty funny on P&R. But he is just SO AWFUL in person, I can't even, yiiiikes. Though he is fun to hate on.

[sainfoin-fields.livejournal.com]

A couple weeks ago I dreamed two new episodes of Parks & Rec, and one of them was a goofy sex comedy featuring a weekend with Leslie/Ben and Ann/Ron (?!) where it was gleefully acknowledged that Leslie and Ron used to do it and might just do it again at any time and nobody felt bad about anything in the slightest. IT WAS A COOL DREAM IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

also lol fandom, never change.

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

Those dreams sound EXTREMELY DELIGHTFUL, I want to go to there!!!! LESLIE/RON ALL THE WAY. ALSO ANN/RON.

I was just wishing TODAY that you'd update!

[moireach.livejournal.com]

Well, many of my favorite fics are your spitefics so maybe you're into something! But ugggggh yes misogyny sexism heteronormative woobification haven't we as a society gotten bored of that yet???? Maybe later we can talk about how Buffy's so cruel to Spike and Karen doesn't deserve Jim Halpert.

YOU DYED YOUR HAIR WITHOUT ME? What if I wanted to come over and eat cupcakes and drink mint juleps and dye my hair too, huh???

As always we are perfectly in tune!!!!! I read your mind-grapes!

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

Haha, I really need to update more often, this post is totally long but as I was ending it I was like, "I FEEL LIKE THIS ISN'T LONG ENOUGH, I SHOULD PROBABLY UPDATE PEOPLE ON EVERY THOUGHT I'VE HAD SINCE I LAST POSTED wait that was like 3 months ago okay maybe not."

Heeee, sometimes I feel like 50% of my fic is spitefic. The other day dsudis was doing the 30 day fic meme and when asked if she got inspired by other fic, answered that she was often inspired by "negative space" in fic, WHICH WAS THE BEST DESCRIPTION OF SPITEFIC I HAVE EVER HEARD AND I AM TOTALLY COOPTING IT. Ugh anyway, yes, heteronormative bullshit, I'm too tired of it even to go yell at people over it, so old, so exhausted, have had this fight too many times. SAD.

UGH I TOTALLY GOT MY HAIR DYED AT A ~*~SALON~*~ as though I am a grownup, what b.s. is this, I should be 24 and having you put pink streaks in my hair while sitting on the floor of your Central Square apartment. BUT YOU SHOULD COME OVER AND EAT CUPCAKES AND MINT JULEPS ANYWAY!

[calendae.livejournal.com]

I will be happy if Leslie chooses her lifelong dream career over a relationship she's been in for a few weeks. And somehow, I think Ben would totally understand because, hey, he also has aspirations beyond marriage and baby.

I don't understand how anyone could ever bash Leslie. Because she is liquid awesome.

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

God, I know, right? Leslie has always wanted that career, how can anyone resent that?? And I do feel like it's mean to Ben to act like he would be a little bitch about it. He somehow intuited within like seconds of meeting her that she wanted to run for office, c'mon!

[herself_nyc]

So nice to see you post again and for once I know what you're talking about as I recently got SO into P&R.

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

Thanks! I need to post more, sheesh. And isn't P&R great? I'm so glad you're into it!

[leatherteal.livejournal.com]

COME ON, FOR REAL? LESLIE-BASHING? WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO? I think calendae's assessment is my favorite. Though considering the way Pam's graphic design aspirations went, I'm kinda concerned.

Uuugh, I find Rod Lowe's character on P&R so funny and the bloopers were so painful to me, but luckily I've read a list of Terrible Rob Lowe Facts that I vaguely remember so I can mostly enjoy irritation at his expense.

Chris/Andy getting a boner from Aubrey/April slapping him in the face is my life

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

Godddddd, Pam's dead graphic design career is my number one fandom trigger, haha. I feel like P&R is at least structured around Leslie's career, so it's not very likely that it will go in the toilet for her the way it did for Pam... but still, worrisome! Don't let me down, Schur!

I know, I actually like Chris on Parks & Rec quite a bit, he's totally funny -- I just do not like Rob Lowe AT ALL as a human, haha.

[ciachick711.livejournal.com]

UGHHH. You are so right about P&R. I'm not really in the "fandom" per se, except that the majority of people I follow on tumblr like it, but I know like someone mentioned above, the whole Adam Scott worship is RIDICULOUS. I don't get it. I don't even like Ben that much. (Also, I support Leslie/Ron endgame is what I'm saying.) Ugh ugh fandom what. /delirious comment is delirious

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

I am totally into Adam Scott, but the fandom worship is making me very resentful! I feel like it happens with all charismatic (white male) romantic leads in fandom, though -- cf. Spike, Jim Halpert, etc. Not to mention that Cumberbatch fellow I see all the time and his fellow ugly British cohorts Tennant and Hardy. (Haha. No offense, fans, to each her own.)

(I WOULD TOTALLY SUPPORT A LESLIE/RON ENDGAME. Ben is fine but Ron is a MAN.)

[crackers4jenn.livejournal.com]

What what what, people are hating on Leslie? BECAUSE OF BEN. THAT IS NOT EVEN A QUESTION, IT'S A STATEMENT OF RIDICULOUS FUCKERY.

I actually want for Leslie to go for her goals, even if that means she has to temporarily set aside the Ben ~thing. I like Ben, and I like him and Leslie together, but Jesus H, it's not like they're going to spiral into an awful Bones-type WILL THEY/WON'T THEY territory if they get cockblocked one more time. GET YOURSELF TOGETHER, PARKS AND REC FANDOM.

Otherwise I am totally going to end up writing spitefic where Leslie breaks up with Ben for Ron.

A+++. But also, I'd be all for spitefic where Leslie breaks up with Ben for Dave. COME BACK DAVE.

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

I know! I feel like the show clearly has a Leslie/Ben endgame, but also it's a complete betrayal of Leslie's character if she doesn't run for public office. I am just excited to watch it play out -- do we have to preemptively get annoyed at Leslie? Siiiiigh.

DAVE. "So yeah, I guess I'm in love with the army."

[txvoodoo.livejournal.com]

I don't even watch this show but I AM GLAD YOU ARE HERE. Come BACK FROM TUMBLR!

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

HELLO! Don't worry, I still totally read here every day and tumblr is the first thing to go if I'm busy at all, I will not exodus! I need to make an effort to post more instead of being so lazy, is all. :P

[leucocrystal]

Ugh, why Parks and Rec fandom? (Though, is it horrible that I kind of saw this coming a mile away, but wanted to be wrong? But am not surprised that I was, in fact, right? I WANTED TO BE WRONG. >:|)

I've seen a few posts here and there (thankfully not directly on my dashboard, but in the notes to some of those blooper posts) whining about how "Everyone needs to STOP hating on Rob Lowe now!1!!" and I'm just over here like, "lolol no they don't, MORE PLEASE".

Adam's face after Rob's phone rang killed me. Mostly because it was about the exact same face I was making through every one of the Rob Lowe bloopers.

[lone-hobbit.livejournal.com]

...This became my favorite show last year (season 3 SO FANTABULOUS!) but you have just confirmed my inklings that I should stay far, far away from fandom.

Seriously? Leslie bashing? I love Ben, and I love them together...but he has to be cool with being, like First Man.

Also, WTF ROB LOWE. He was my favorite in The Stand. I like him in Parks. But I had never seen Rob Lowe as Rob Lowe before...it's ruined everything.

[cashewdani.livejournal.com]

Have we already reached that point where the fandom is no longer enjoyable and I only want to talk about it with my f-list? It seems like it's happening faster and faster recently. But seriously though, no matter what Leslie chooses it will be the right choice because she's wonderful and the best human being.

(I can't stop thinking about what the story behind the boner is. I am not proud.)

[feministyogini.livejournal.com]

who bashes Leslie?
I can't even imagine a world where this exists ;(

[forsweatervests.livejournal.com]

Ladybashing is my least favorite aspect of fandom. Probably why I don't follow too many fic sites, either.

[irishmizzy.livejournal.com]

Oh maaaaan, tumblr is such a fandom boner killer. I need to blacklist myself from it or something before it takes everything I like and makes me hate it out of spite and overexposure coughBenWyattcough. (The show was good before he got there, he is not it's saving grace, let's all take a deep breath and count backwards from 1000 by sevens and think of warm brownies, etc etc etc.)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_kirsty/]

Aw, the only one who should be doing any bashing is feministhulk.

Totally unrelated but I remember you are or were a Damian Lewis fan and this is too good not to share! Someone on my flist who got into Band of Brothers this summer was looking on Amazon recently for other DLewis-related stuff when she came across this novel (http://www.amazon.com/Meeting-Damian-Lewis-Christine-Wilson/dp/1425950698/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1314139686&sr=8-7).

I was too scared to use the Look Inside feature so I am judging it by its cover, and I judge it to be VERY SPECIAL. See also: the glowing review of the book by the author using her own name!

That one thing you wrote forever ago...

[joslyn (from livejournal.com)]

I'm sorry to say this doesn't have much to do with your entry here, but it is important so please read!

I recently stumbled across your works when searching to The Big Bang Theory fan fictions to satisfy my need for more SheldonxPenny pieces.

Let me just say, your one and only fan fiction of the series blew my mind. I have read a handful now that are floating around on FanFiction.net, and yours is by far the best yet!
I'm not sure if you're into the series anymore (if not, I recommend you do get into it, since it is very good and I love it lol) but if it's any consolation, I really really wish you'd write a sequel of sorts to your work "The Failure of Einstein's Universe"!!! You are a very gifted writer, and from one writer to another, I urge you to continue in the SheldonxPenny universe as it is lacking without your talent and contributions. ;)

Thank you for the amazing story, please consider my request, it would totally make my life. :'D

<3 Joslyn DJ

[annakovsky.livejournal.com]

Oh man, RIGHT??? Haha, that is so good to hear, my Leslie/Ron boner has just gotten bigger and bigger lately, I need it! THEY HAVE A VERY SPECIAL BOND.