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look to the pasta ([personal profile] annakovsky) wrote2011-03-03 03:37 pm

FSCMM help

OKAY I AM BEING A HUGE NERD, but I got super interested in the stats on FSCMM re: ladies and characters of color and LGBT characters, especially regarding this year versus previous years, AND I NEED YOUR HELP. I-I am probably going to post some thorough stats later, but right now I just need to know if I'm missing any CoC or LGBT characters for the shows I don't watch, since occasionally the first is easy to miss (lol once I saw someone talking about Ann from Parks as a white girl and I was like, DUDE, RASHIDA'S DAD IS QUINCY JONES, SHE IS BIRACIAL, GET A CLUE), and the second one obviously cannot be told from an imdb picture.

(all of these are being edited as per comments)

Characters of Color Who Won The Prelims
Troy Barnes (Community)
Kelly Kapoor (The Office, woo!)
Gus (Psych)
Kalinda Sharma (The Good Wife)
Kono Kalakaua (Hawaii Five-0)
Annie Sawyer (Being Human) (mixed race, apparently?)
Maria DeLuca (Roswell) (the actress is hispanic, yes? Is the character explicitly?)

LBGT
Adam Torres (Degrassi: TNG)
Kurt Hummel (Glee)
Brian Kinney (Queer as Folk)
Kalinda Sharma (The Good Wife)

ENTIRE LIST OF CHARACTERS WHO MADE IT THROUGH THE PRELIMS FOR YOUR PERUSAL (without their show affiliations, because I'm lazy)

Liz Lemon
Miranda
Kelly Kapoor
Dee Reynolds
Leslie Knope
Lucille Bluth
Ellie Torres
Sybil Crawley
Parker
CJ Cregg
Joan Holloway
Kalinda Sharma
Temperance Brennan
Kono Kalakaua
Juliet Burke
Sydney Bristow
Dana Scully
Samantha Carter
Aeryn Sun
Annie Sawyer
Olivia Dunham
Chloe Sullivan
Kara Thrace
Buffy Summers
Veronica Mars
Brooke Davis
Lindsay Weir
Mary Cherry
Blair Waldorf
Spencer Hastings
Caroline Forbes
Tami Taylor
Lorelai Gilmore
Maria DeLuca
Andy Botwin
Troy Barnes
Phil Dunphy
Barney Stinson
Gus
Perry Cox
Sheldon Cooper
Dan Rydell
Chandler Bing
Sherlock Holmes
Gregory House
Richard Castle
Dexter Morgan
Brian Kinney
Neal Caffrey
Raylan Givens
Eleventh Doctor
Malcolm Reynolds
Merlin
Chuck Bartowski
Eric Northman
Nathan Young
Dean Winchester
Spock
Adam Torres
Seth Cohen
Kurt Hummel
Cappie
Pacey Witter
Chris Miles

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2011-03-03 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank youuu! Wait, so the character was supposed to be Hispanic, the actress IS Hispanic, but because she didn't look Hispanic enough they changed the character to white? OH WB, THAT IS EPIC.

[identity profile] dudski.livejournal.com 2011-03-03 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
PRETTY MUCH. She speaks like three words of Spanish in the pilot and that's it for the series, and her only relatives that appeared on the show - her mom and her cousin - were white. Looking around there's this gem:

It's interesting because my character on Roswell was supposed to be Latin and they didn't think I was Latin, so it was a big stretch for them to consider me. [Laughs] No one ever thinks I'm Latin. I guess producers have a pre-conceived notion of what "Latin" looks like. They're also thinking that everyone watching will have a pre-conceived notion. Now they're considering whether or not to publicize the fact that I'm Latin. [Laughs] And whether it will tick people off. I keep telling them, "Don't worry. We're not crazy people like you think!"

WHETHER OR NOT TO PUBLICIZE. JESUS.

[identity profile] onelittlesleep.livejournal.com 2011-03-03 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS ABOUT MAJANDRA. DUH. Thanks for the info.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2011-03-03 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
UGH THIS IS SO DEPRESSING. It's kind of like how apparently Sofia Vergara is naturally blond, but has to die her hair dark because PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN BLOND LATINAS or something. DDDDDDD:

[identity profile] cat-eyed-fox.livejournal.com 2011-03-04 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I always assumed that Maria's dad, who isn't in the show, was Hispanic, but thanks to wacky genetics she takes after her mom. I guess it's that old entertainment problem where if it's not explicitly stated, or totes clear (ie looks/acts/speaks a certain way) a person defaults the American Norm, straight white Christian.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2011-03-04 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, yeah, I never know what to do with that -- if the actor is not white, but could pass, and the show always treats them as white, are they white??? UGH CANON.

[identity profile] cat-eyed-fox.livejournal.com 2011-03-04 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
And then you've got to think what exactly "treats them as white" means. And it's the same with GLBTT issues. Like just because they're not french kissing people of the same sex doesn't mean that that character is straight.
On one hand should it matter? Aren't we all just people? On the other, yes, yes it does. If WASP is normal for Americans then an evaluation is needed.