annakovsky: (dan in real life)
look to the pasta ([personal profile] annakovsky) wrote2007-09-07 01:46 pm

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I can't believe Jenna Fischer and James Gunn are splitting. Between that and Owen Wilson's suicide attempt, I don't even know, man. (Last night I was getting a pedicure and reading the most recent People magazine cover article about said suicide attempt. The article concluded that depression probably played a role. STOP THE PRESSES.) I always feel like such an idiot when celebrity news genuinely gets me down, but geez, I'm not made of stone here.

In more cheerful celebrity news, Stephen Colbert is the subject of an excellent Vanity Fair article, with pictures that -- well, no Sunday School teacher should look like this, let's just say. Sweet mother of mercy.

This new promo for The Office has made me SO PSYCHED for next season, you guys (VERY SPOILERY). Here's some brief Office meta that I've been thinking about over the summer, re: the show and fandom.


  1. Post-"The Job" fic has been such a wasteland, I have to say, especially compared to post-"Casino Night." I mean, it makes sense -- just the thought of trying to write first date fic makes me about fall asleep where I sit, but it's still kind of sad. All summer I've been trying to think about ways I could write Jim/Pam fic and make it interesting for myself, but I have come up with nothing -- I've already written established relationship fic, and I don't really want to write about them breaking up, so... yeah. The only thing I can think of to try to get some conflict in there without depressing the hell out of me is to have them either a) attacked by zombies, or b) meet up with Xander Harris or something. Haha.

  2. You know, I rarely think that the show missteps, but I have to say, as the show has gone on, I think they made a mistake with the character of Jim, as compared to Tim in the UK version. Tim is not cool at all -- he's short and not that attractive and 30 years old but still living with his parents. You totally understand why Dawn stays with Lee -- even Tim's Nana wouldn't kick Lee out of bed, ha. Whereas Jim -- well, Jim is a hipster, who wasn't cool in high school but realized in his 20s that with the right haircut and a working knowledge of indie bands out of Montreal, he could fake it. (Hee, I once saw an older fan citing Jim's hair as evidence he didn't care about fashion, which was vaguely hilarious.) And Jim in season 2 is practically genetically engineered to be your perfect boyfriend, so Pam staying with Roy makes a lot less sense. Of course, Jim in season 3 turns into every whiney ex-boyfriend you've ever had (in May, my brother the mathematician told me, "Jim Halpert is no Bob Vance." Haha. He's not wrong. He also said that Jim's half the man Dwight is, which I think you could definitely make a case for) -- which, by the way, I really hope they spend some time in season 4 redeeming the character of Jim Halpert after he was such a douche to Karen and Pam all year. Uh - where was I? Oh yeah, so Jim being cool not only throws off the Jim/Pam dynamic, it also really throws off the Jim/Dwight dynamic. When you watch the UK version, Tim is almost always really on the verge of losing his temper with Gareth. He's often just about to freak out at Gareth for how annoying he's being -- whereas I don't think I've ever seen Jim really on the verge of yelling at Dwight or at Andy. Jim always seems kind of coolly detached. And after awhile of coolly detached pranks, well, Jim starts seeming kind of like an asshole, the cool kid tormenting the dorks for no good reason. (Possibly my favorite sequence from the entire show is in "Conflict Resolution" when they're listing all of Jim's pranks on Dwight, and Jim's face falls as he realizes that he's kind of a huge dick. Too bad that self-realization didn't last into season 3.) I think the dynamic's gotten worse as the show's sort of institutionalized the pranks as cold opens, and has gotten away from the normal-person-being-annoyed-by-drudgery-of-job-and-insanity-of-coworkers aspects of the show. Anyway, I hope in season 4 they try to correct that dynamic a little bit, because honestly, at this point my sympathy is more with Dwight than Jim a lot of the time.

  3. I was watching deleted scenes from "Gay Witch Hunt" and other episodes last night, and I gotta tell you. Back in season 2, I took Michael's man crush on Ryan as being only sort of gay - that Michael was mostly straight but weird about Ryan. But in Gay Witch Hunt Michael is SO terrified of anyone thinking he's gay that ever since then I've pretty much read him as closeted. And whoo boy, there are a lot of Michael/Ryan deleted scenes. (Speaking of closeted, you know who would have an awkward, closeted gay encounter in, say, a public restroom? Michael Scott and "Stephen Colbert" the character.)

  4. Speaking of the DVDs, dude, did you guys see all the Jim & Andy scenes cut from Product Recall? GOLDEN. Also, there's one point where Jim, like, rubs Andy's back. HELLO. Why hasn't anyone written THAT?

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved season 2 - it's so incredibly tight, and the longing it builds up for the Jim/Pam relationship is really amazing. But it's totally true that since it's from Jim's POV, you do excuse him a lot more (like when he's a huge dick to Katy, for instance) - but it's really amazing how when it's suddenly not from his point of view, he's a huge ass. Jeez.

I am TOTALLY with you on feeling protective of Michael and Dwight - the times when I like Jim and Pam the most are when they're being kind to those guys, but yeah, most of the time it was getting pretty bad in s3. Especially right after the merger when there were a lot more new people.

DUDE. The new SVU promo! And the pictures! Those hotasses. BUT NO I HAVE NOT HEARD SPOILERS, PLIS TELL ME MORE!

[identity profile] frey-at-last.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
WELL. I'm glad you saw the STAR-STUDDED promo - the one with the introduction by Ice-T, right? Together with all the naked people and violence and STARRY STUDS? It preeeeetty much sums up the reason I watch SVU.

BUT SPOILERS, OKAY. Apparently Olivia got a haircut for a reason, which is weird, and Elliot is "officially" back at home with pregnant Kathy, and (this is a total non-spoiler), surprise, the annoying daughter (second oldest I think) is being a brat. There is also some terrible news about Cragen I won't tell you just in case it works out to be not-so-terrible in reality, and then you'll never have to cry about it.

You know, for all the mush SVU has churned out in the past two or three years, with all the Benson-Stabler drama, they've also managed to do a damn good job from time to time - the eye-fuck stand-off one, and the one where they sit side by side on the steps and make friends again. So I am pleased, and hopeful. I really hope the Elliot-back-at-home thing doesn't just restore the status quo of the first five seasons, though, how BORING.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2007-09-08 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, YES, the intro by Ice-T! It was so embarrassing, like your dad introing something. Yet somehow awesome? Oh, SVU, you and your sensationalism, never leave me!

She got a haircut for a reason??? Is it symbolic? About their LUV?? I hope so. Man, I hate that dumb second daughter (Kathleen?) -- isn't she like 19 years old? Shouldn't she be less bratty by now?

SVU always amazes me with its incredible inconsistent quality - it is SO awful most of the time, but then it comes out with something like Fault that was literally one of the best episodes of TV ever and it's just like, oh goodness. But seriously, I hope it progresses somewhere - and seriously, Kathy being pregnant? Poor Elliot. (Though he deserves it, sleeping with his ex-wife. That scene was, uh, AWKWARD. It felt like it lasted like 10 years.)

[identity profile] frey-at-last.livejournal.com 2007-09-08 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well a for-real spoiler is that "one of her colleagues notices/comments on her new haircut," which is weird enough, but someone also mentioned that they saw some interview where Mariska says Dick Wolf/the producers specifically requested it, for some reason. ...???

[identity profile] baggers.livejournal.com 2007-09-08 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
FOR A REASON? OH, LORD! um, hi! Where do you get your spoilers from? There are new pics floating around where she had shoulder length hair almost ala season 1, and I saw them filming episode 9, and trying to place the timeline is driving me crazy, much like the show itself and OH GOD, WHEN DOES SEASON 9 START? WHEN? Um. Excuse me. I hate this show so much I love it.

[identity profile] frey-at-last.livejournal.com 2007-09-08 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Well a for-real spoiler is that "one of her colleagues notices/comments on her new haircut," which is weird enough, but someone also mentioned that they saw some interview where Mariska says Dick Wolf/the producers specifically requested it. ...???

I just got my spoilers from [livejournal.com profile] lawandordersvu - someone usually posts the new spoilers that they get from Ausiello on svufans.net. I haven't been paying too much attention to her styles in the new pics -- did she have long or short hair in episode 9? Maybe IT GETS CUT ON CAMERA!! Maybe Elliot's daughter shears it off while Olivia is asleep!!

The great thing about this show is knowing that the reality will ALWAYS be more ridiculous than any of our speculation. YESS.