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look to the pasta ([personal profile] annakovsky) wrote2006-11-14 08:51 pm

I wasn't pushing you away, I was pulling me toward myself.

So I'm still kind of doing the Stephen Colbert RPF thing (and by "kind of" I mean "half my waking moments", obvs - like, I made myself wallpaper, you guys. I am not even kidding. Send help), which has somehow led me down the merry path of shipping Stephen Colbert/Paul Dinello/Amy Sedaris, which I guess would be Strangers with Candy RPF (yeah, yeah, I judge you too, go back to watching SGA). And I'm reminded of all the things I find vaguely hilarious and awesome about RPF fandoms, which are that your canon comes not in entertaining half hour segments every Thursday night during sweeps, but instead through random LJ posts such as this, and you inevitably find yourself reading a lot of posts describing book signings/panel discussions/conventions/what have you, that all seem to begin with an extremely detailed description of how the person writing the post arrived at the location ("and THEN I took the red line to the green line" - dude, I am bored when I TAKE public transportation, how would I not be bored READING about YOU taking public transportation?), and then disproportionately seem to end with, "And then I called my mom to come pick us up."

Speaking of which, it's really interesting to me that RPF fandoms skew so young compared to other fandoms - I mean, it kind of makes sense with something like popslash, but when you're talking SWC, which was on the air when *I* was a teenager, I'm not sure why it would. Except that older fans appear to have questions like, Is writing RPF morally wrong? Whereas the kids seem to have questions like, How many times do you think Stephen and Paul banged last night? Which, fair enough. But I've been reading a lot of fic that's fine, but you can tell that in about five years when the writer, you know, graduates college it'll be AMAZING, and I start to fantasize about living in the future not for the flying cars, but because the Colbert/Dinello fic will be FANTASTIC. This is honestly what I thought about all last night while attempting to read a 90 page article on Old Babylonian economics, true story.

Anyway, on the subject, I actually did end up going to see Amy Sedaris give a book reading last week, which was pretty awesome. Except that I had already read fan reports of other readings on this same book tour, which meant that I knew pretty much everything she was going to say and do. That's right, basically what I'm saying is that the internet spoiled me FOR MY OWN LIFE. Which is pretty amazing when you think about it. BUT, she took questions, and so I asked her what her favorite thing was that she'd done with Paul and Stephen. And she told one story, that I'd heard before (thanks, Internet!) about how one time at Second City she was backstage while they were onstage, and she saw a black book marked "Diary" and she picked it up and it was Colbert's diary. And she opened it up and it said, "Last night I dreamed I was a dragonfly." And basically she has made fun of him for that ever since. And then she said that another time the three of them went hiking in the Mojave desert, and Stephen left a glass of ice in the car. And they hadn't brought any water or anything, so by the time they got back they were all really thirsty, and the ice had all melted, so there was, like, half a glass of ice cold water. And Stephen, "being the gentleman that he is" was like, Amy, go ahead, and gave her the water. And instead of drinking it, she poured it out on the ground. And then he rubbed her face in the dirt as revenge. Jerri Blank voice: "Good times." Hahahahaha. Basically, she's incredibly adorable, and her book looked awesome, though I'm broke so I am going to have to wait for the paperback.

Wow. You know what is sad about ending this entry? I'm going to have to go do work now. THERE IS A MONSTER AT THE END OF THIS POST.
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[identity profile] scarlettgirl.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
basically what I'm saying is that the internet spoiled me FOR MY OWN LIFE

The power of the internet is a terrible and beautiful thing. HEEE!

You're adorable.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
IT WAS WEIRD. All I'm saying is, if the internet spoils me for other future events in my life, I will be peeved. Even if it's just a casting spoiler!

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

How's that "Torchwood" treating you?
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[identity profile] scarlettgirl.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Don't you know, casting isn't a spoiler? Many lj polls have proved it.

"Torchwood" the show is crap. Or crack. I haven't decided. I mean, the its had a sex alien that kills people with orgasms, a cybergirl in a tinfoil bikini fighting a pterodactyl and evil faeries that kill you by shoving rose petals down your throat.

Okay, it is crack.

"Torchwood" the fandom, however is love. Way better than the source material. My preferred ship's lj comm is called "rat jam and pizza". How awesome is that? Between that and the Jack/severed hand comms, what's not to love?

[identity profile] hobviously.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Don't you know, casting isn't a spoiler? Many lj polls have proved it.

Science at its finest!

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahahaha. LJ polls, the best way to do research! My favorite are the ones that are for papers people are writing.

The Dr. Who dude is in Torchwood, right? That is the extent of my knowledge. I'm glad the fandom's good! Baby fandoms are fun, before they eat themselves and turn all nasty and embittered. Awww.
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[identity profile] scarlettgirl.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yes..Capt. Jack (points to icon) is the lead. He's too pretty though..it's like looking at a genetically engineered Hollywood Leading Man. But he is the biggest geekboy, flaming gay you could possible imagine. It's cute.

And it's already started to chew on it's own leg. Several infamous wankers have joined the ranks *cough*jennyo*cough*

Man...now I want to do a poll.....

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahahahaha. Yes, I very much enjoyed the sidelines of the Torchwood/Welsh/racism wank. Oh, fandom. So crazy.

I would vote in your poll!
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[identity profile] snoopypez.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
And Stephen, "being the gentleman that he is" was like, Amy, go ahead, and gave her the water. And instead of drinking it, she poured it out on the ground. And then he rubbed her face in the dirt as revenge.

HAHAHAHA!! Oh, man. They are so amazingly awesome. And also pretty stupid to not bring any water. ;)

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, they kill me! SO MUCH. And for reals, I was totally worrying about their hydration for a second before I was like, dude, they obviously were fine, hahahahaha. She also talked about the tumbling and how she bought "lady pantsuits" for Paul and Stephen to wear. BEAUTIFUL.
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[identity profile] snoopypez.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Lady pantsuits?! For the original tumbling, or the TCR tumbling? ;)

Man, and to think all *I* asked her was if the gay worm in her book named Stephen was named after Colbert or not. ;P

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! Apparently for the original tumbling! Someone asked about the TCR tumbling, and then she told about how back in Chicago she'd lived above a deaf girl who saw Cirque de Soleil and was describing it to Amy, and then Amy decided to have something visual in everything they did, so went out and bought tumbling books and two lady pantsuits for Paul and Stephen, and brought them in the next day and was like, guess what, guys, we're going to tumble. So then they learned how to tumble, and did it all the time. And then when they were deciding what to do on TCR, she was like, I don't know, Stephen, it's going to be weird, 'cause I know you so well, and he was like, well, why don't we tumble? Even though they hadn't done it in ten years And then Stephen and Paul were sore for two days after. Hahaha. AMAZING.

Oh, dude, and she said that Stephen was just a good gay name, right? HEE.
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[identity profile] snoopypez.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Heeee, I had heard everything in that story except for lady pantsuits. ;) And I love that Stephen was the one to suggest the tumbling, 'put it to rest', even though as you said, they hadn't done it in ten years. Weirdos.

I LOVE THEM. :D

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Heee, I figured you probably had, since *I* had and I've been in this fandom for like five minutes (oh, those good old days so long ago when I used to *casually* enjoy SWC and TCR. WEIRD).

I like thinking that tumbling has haunted their dreams, and now they can just finally move past it. Those crazy kids.

[identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Awww, I want to read my Wigfield book all over again. Where on earth is there Strangers With Candy fic, if you don't mind my asking? I have a serious crush on Amy Sedaris. A SERIOUS crush, not some flippant or glib one.

"I cried because I had no shoes, until I saw a man who had no feet. And then I laughed at that man."

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I clearly need to get my hands on Wigfield! Instead of just listening to, uh, every thirty minute interview on NPR about it that exists on the internet. (Three so far, for the record.)

Ooh, SWC fic, or SWC RPF? Because I can provide you with both. I have a bunch of RPF bookmarked my del.icio.us (unfortunately that isn't all under one tag, though - I'm going to have to organize it better. But if you click on my StephenColbert tag you'll find most of it, I think. Everything I have bookmarked is all very readable, though much of it is also very overwritten. But hey, kids.) There are also quite a few LJ communities: [livejournal.com profile] wigfield_fic, [livejournal.com profile] stephen_paul, [livejournal.com profile] swc_fiction. The line in this fandom between FPF and RPF is not very delineated, which is awesome, and means that a lot of comms will have both Stephen/Paul and Noblet/Jellineck side by side. Sadly, I don't have much Amy fic bookmarked - that's probably the next wing of my obsession. Heh.

[identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh, that is more than enough to get rolling, thanks! *bookmarks* And while we don't know each other well, I tend to enjoy the fics you've recced, so I'm excited to have new hilarity. JELLINECK. Just saying that makes me happy.

And now I feel guilty for at one point having TWO copies of Wigfield, when you had a dearth of them.

Hee, did Amy have lemon halves in her top? I bought a copy of "Bust" magazine where she mentioned how she liked that they gave her prominent nipples. Hahahaha.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
MY PLEASURE. Heeee. Please, follow me down this awesome, yet lonely path! Man, Jellineck/Noblet: great ship, or GREATEST ship??

Hahahahaha, I had NOT even heard that about Amy, so I didn't even think to check! She's tiny, though. They gave her a box to stand on, no lie. (Seriously, how is she so awesome? My latest project is to watch every clip of her on Letterman on youtube.)

[identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
*packs a bag* Jellineck and Noblet: the perfect and healthiest relationship on the planet, and other hevenly bodies aside.

I love how Letterman is so obviously smitten with her, and ditto with Conan! She's giggly and silly and makes cupcakes!! And had an unshaved Liberty Bell! Clearly, she is the new Messiah.

[identity profile] poshcat.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
THERE IS A MONSTER AT THE END OF THIS POST.

Aw, but it's just cute adorable Grover Kovsky okay, it's horrible, frightening work. My mistake. ::hides eyes::


[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
SAVE ME!

*clings*

[identity profile] sophia-helix.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Seeee, this is the sadness of the internet, if you read enough stuff about your favorite [insert performer] you're actually not excited when you meet them because you realize, depressingly, that they recycle material. Like how Fischer and Krasinski serious made the same three jokes all during the summer press junkets. (TWINS? SRSLY??)

Casting spoiler for Kovksky's life: tall dark and handsome actor has a walk-on role! Not saying who!

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? I mean, it makes sense - like, god knows I tell the same stories all the time - but siriusly. I have already heard all these anecdotes! Tell me something new and hopefully slashy!

AUGH I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU SPOILED ME. *DEFRIENDS*

[identity profile] calendae.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I made my little brother watch SWC while we were all together last week. It was perfect funeral fare. Just macabre enough.


"I wanna work at the artificial flower plant plant!"

Also, I am jealous of your Amy Sedaris proximity. Her recipe for cupcakes is awesome.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I could see it being very good at funerals, actually. Which is weird, but makes sense.

Man, the artificial flower plant one - NOBLET, ROCK STAR. CARRY ON MY WAYWARD SON. That show is insane.

I really want to try some of her recipes! But I'll have to get the book first, I guess. She is a tiny adorable bizarre pixie, it was fun to see her in person.

[identity profile] ladypeyton.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly? I don't think you can consider fic about Stephen Colbert RPF. He's as mucha fictional character as anyone in Buffy, Angel or SGA.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. This is actually an excellent point - the funny thing is that the fandom carefully delineates Stephen Colbert FPF from Stephen Colbert RPF - there's a WHOLE COMM for Colbert Report FPF ([livejournal.com profile] tcr_fps, which, by the way is completely awes. I asked for Stephen/Tad for Yuletide.

[identity profile] gulliblesnail.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think I've destroyed any moral qualms I might have had toward RPF with Amy Sedaris/Stephen Colbert/Paul Dinello. After a certain point, it just seems silly to say, well, I ship Chuck/Geoffrey, and Laughton/Troy, and Stephen/Tad, and random side characters, but STEPHEN/PAUL?

So it was easier to give in. I'm so giddy for the movie and commentary and getting more of all three of them together. I love all the affection mixed with the mocking. It is a weird adjustment, though, like you're describing. I want to keep reading about them, but I'm scared of hearing all the stories before I make it out to a reading.

Anyway, er, hi! I found you through Office fanstuffs and episode commentaries. And oh, I also wanted to thank you for the del.icio.us links up above! I feel like I need to mention it so I don't feel creepy browsing through other people's bookmarks.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahahaha. Laughton/Troy cracks me up, but then, that sketch WAS full of sexual tension! It's not our fault they play gay for each other constantly! Down in the basement!

I am SUPER excited for the movie commentary and stuff. I've also been Netflixing the series, so I'm watching those commentaries, and man. I love new fandoms, how you can just throw yourself into EVERYTHING and there's this huge amount of canon. (Heh. New fandoms. I actually watched SWC back when it was on! Just casually, like a normal person. Siiiigh.) But seriously, they're just such good friends, and they've known each other so long, it's niiiice.

Hiya! I feel like I have totally seen your name around. Office stuff is a good time! And heee, enjoy the delicious - other people's delicious links are, like, my number 1 favorite reference on the internet.

[identity profile] gulliblesnail.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really grateful for DVDs, because it becomes more bearable when you hit the end of a series. (It can also be frustrating sometimes, because I'm pretty sure I've watched commentaries where the actors talk about how no one would be lame enough to listen to the commentaries, and, and, hey.)

Strangers with Candy is nice because you can go backwards and watch clips of them making out, or look forward to Colbert Report appearances in the future. Then the show itself has got the multiple identities and endless roleplaying possibilities.

Hahaha, I remember when Colbert's show first started. Oh, well, I suppose I can force myself to stick out the extra half hour. And now it's become the highlight for me. (I still have much love for the Daily Show, but, well. I'm in an obsession, here.)

THUMBS UP

[identity profile] pearl-o.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
But I've been reading a lot of fic that's fine, but you can tell that in about five years when the writer, you know, graduates college it'll be AMAZING, and I start to fantasize about living in the future not for the flying cars, but because the Colbert/Dinello fic will be FANTASTIC. This is honestly what I thought about all last night while attempting to read a 90 page article on Old Babylonian economics, true story.

Man, I enjoy all the assumptions you are making here! If this worked on all crappy young writers, I woudl be five thousand times better than I was 5 years ago, but it would all be pointless because I'd be wasting my brilliance on Smallville.

Also, I totally cracked up at three different points here.

Re: THUMBS UP

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahahahaha, that was actually the sad part about that train of thought, was that in five years they won't even be writing Colbert/Dinello anymore, they'll be writing, like SG-54 or whatever wretch fandom takes over my friendslist in 2011. Hahahahahahaha.

Also, whatevs, I bet you are totally better than 5 years ago! And I bet five years ago you didn't write about people, like, drowning in endless oceans of tears, either, so.

<3 <3 <3

[identity profile] imogenics.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Hey now, maybe the inevitable "and then I called my mom" is simply a contractually obligated shout-out. Like, okay, I will let you take dangerous and unpredictable methods of public transport to your function but YOU MUST MENTION ME IN YOUR TEDIOUS LJ WRITE-UP OF THE EVENING'S EVENTS. xoxo, mom.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHA. I do believe you have hit upon it! I'm glad to know that the mothers of our nation's high schoolers are supporting their endeavors to write about Stephen Colbert having the buttsex with his coworkers. Good times!
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[personal profile] minim_calibre 2006-11-15 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Amy Sedaris is MADE OF AMAZING!!!

And the Internets spoiling you for your life = priceless.

(Internet speculation turned out to be true WRT the gender of my child when we finally got the casting sidesultrasound! The Internets know all!)

I have vague thoughts on RPS and age and Tijuana Bibles and stuff, but they are unsorted and random, I fear. Anyhow, it all boys down to, If David Sedaris Can Do It, Why Can't I? (Which is part of the whole What Would David Sedaris Do? thing to which I occasionally subscribe.)

(And which makes me suddenly want Paul Dinello/David Sedaris where Paul is sad because Amy and Stephen ran off to do something fun and exciting without him, and I really don't have much more than that.)

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
She KILLS me.

Dude, I still can't believe the internet spoiled you for your child's gender! No one respects the cut tag anymore. Hahahaha.

Yeah, I have vague thoughts about RPS and age, too, possibly related to how most people write fic about, you know, them and Jonathan Taylor Thomas or whoever when they're 14 ANYway and no 14 year old has scruples about it, it's just that now people post that to the internet, and instead of only writing Mary Sue fic, they write other character fic? Or something. I don't even know. Hahahaha, and FOR REAL, David Sedaris totally writes Amy Sedaris RPF, he just has more canon to work with than I do.

(oh my GOD, I would so read Paul Dinello/David Sedaris. PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN.)
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[personal profile] minim_calibre 2006-11-15 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
David Sedaris Mary Sue-d himself with William F. Buckley and Mike Tyson. He's my freaking HERO. The Lord King of RPF.

(I would, but that would involve research, and I have this Yuletide MONSTER on my back!)

[identity profile] ciachick711.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I like the "shoutouts" to moms idea. "So what is your type?" "Any kind of moms basically."

I've never been a RPF person myself, but I have to admit I do find the whole TDS crew, esp. Colbert, intriguing.

I'm sure you saw this, but last night Tina Fey was on with Jon and she said that when she was a student at Second City, one of the two--Steve Carell or Stephen Colbert--was "quite the ladies' man." Heee! Jon said he bet it was Stephen.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Man, TDS RPF is totally killing me right now. I just wish there was more of it that wasn't terrible. (There is a lot of lovemaking. I can't cotton that.)

Yes, I totally saw that! Jon was VERY intrigued. Also, apparently, from someone who was at the taping of TDS last night, off camera on the satellite hookup with Colbert, Jon ASKED Stephen about it, and he started laughing and blushing uncontrollably. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] ciachick711.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
That is GOLD. I totally wanted to see him tease Stephen about it, so I was a little disappointed that he didn't get to.

[identity profile] moireach.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
The funny part is how you're not actually doing homework now.

[identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Not as funny as your face.

[identity profile] moireach.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
There is a LADIES MAN in my icon. Somewhere.

[identity profile] elucidate-this.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
i had a really long thing here about the internet spoiling you for your life, but what i really meant to say was hee! and also, i avoid meeting celebrities because i feel that i've been spoiled for all the good parts.


also, re: age skews in rps... i'm not sure that agree with you about that skew. i haven't conducted extensive research, but the popslash writers that i have been reading (oh the SHAME! these last few months are full of SHAME!) seem to fall along roughly the same age lines that i see in other fandoms. granted, there are a lot of younguns, but there are a hell of a lot of 15 year old btvs fans, so i'm not sure it's the rpf thing. and there is also a ton of really good fic. sometimes i think that the percentage of good fic remains constant no matter the size or type of fandom, it's just a question of how easy it is to find it.

[identity profile] lone-hobbit.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
I start to fantasize about living in the future not for the flying cars, but because the Colbert/Dinello fic will be FANTASTIC

That sentence/line of thought just made me incredibly happy.

Also, YAY for your StephenColbert tagged stuff, because I give up looking for good fic easily, and just wait for other people to do it for me.

I totally used to be a "then my mom picked me up" person. I hope I've changed. If not mentally maturing, at least I can pick myself up.

[identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com 2006-11-15 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what's sad about this entry? You apparently KNOW exactly the time I'm going to stop reading LJ for the night and always post *immediately* afterwards!! It's like some secret power you have! No matter when I quit, your posts (on the days you post) are always the oldest post I haven't read.

STOP SPYING ON ME!!