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annakovsky) wrote2011-11-17 12:19 pm
annakovsky) wrote2011-11-17 12:19 pm
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How about Germany? They've never been the bad guys.
I've been having a weird impromptu X-Files marathon lately -- I haven't watched that show in FOREVER but for some reason out of the blue I got the urge to watch the first season episode "Eve", and it held up SHOCKINGLY WELL. I tend to the think of the first season as being kind of terrible, but man, I can see why my 14 year old self got really into it. (Also, hilariously, I have a lot of very specific memories of where I watched different episodes, and I was such a baby. Often it's like, WOW, I watched this for the first time while babysitting for the people who lived behind us, and I totally freaked myself out. Or, I had to go to my friend's play that Friday night, so I had to tape the episode on the VCR and it only taped half and I was super mad. Haha, being a fangirl in the mid-90s was the worst, remember how if you missed something that was just too bad? Unless you could find someone on a Prodigy X-Files message board who would send you a VHS tape in the mail?)
Anyway, here are some reflections on my very first fandom, more than 15 years after it first aired (augh):
1) The show totally holds up, even with their '90s hair and weird awkward flirting that sometimes comes off as a hostile work environment, MULDER. (It is weird to watch older media sometimes, I saw a couple things from the '80s lately, which I do not think of as super old, and boy, the '80s sure played fast and loose with issues of consent, didn't they? NO MEANS NO, BILL MURRAY IN GHOSTBUSTERS.)
2) That being said, I think Chris Carter wanted Mulder and Scully to come off as super smart, which seems to mean "talking like they are robots." No one uses the word "perhaps" in conversations with their mother, Scully! Some of the writing is SO CLUNKY, especially -- haha, remember those horrible voiceovers about, like, the nature of the universe? Those are STILL THE WORST. Chris Carter, stop hurting the English language like that, what did it ever do to you.
3) I had kind of forgotten how very consciously post-Watergate the show is, in a way that comes off really dated now. Sometimes the whole show makes me think, oh, 1990s, things were so good you had to INVENT things to be upset about, that's adorable. Also, like... I know the whole post-Watergate mentality is generally thought of as a very cynical one, but it weirdly comes off to me as really naive now? Like, there are times when Mulder rants about how the truth will come out and the American people will never tolerate it, etc! And my reaction to that is, "Yeah, right, like the truth coming out ever stops anything." Ha ha? I was thinking about whether that's, like, idk, a post-9/11 mentality, but I actually think it's a post-2008-economic-collapse mentality. Oh, everyone knows that Wall Street crashed the economy, but... nothing's going to change? Great!
(Actually, as an aside, I feel like we are so post-9/11 now that we're actually post-post-9/11, in that if I never hear the phrase "post-9/11" again it will be too soon. Also, is anybody watching the show Homeland? Super good show, but it actually strikes me as post-9/11 in a way that is a little bit dated, like it would've felt more timely 5 years ago. Like, ugh, really, we're still worrying about terrorists? I'm actually worried about getting a job, but okay.)
4) God, Scully gets a bum deal in this show. (Haha, hilariously I vividly remember arguing on the internet when I was like 15 that Mulder got kidnapped just as much as Scully, it wasn't sexist! Lolol oh young me, there is just so much I need to tell you about, but tragically I cannot.) And riddle me this, internet: why does every single lady ever on a genre show have to get reproductively assaulted in some way? (Subset question: Why does every lady on a procedural or possibly every other genre eventually realize that all she wants in the world are babies? TIRED TROPE, TELEVISION. TIRED.) But ah, Scully. Family members murdered, ova harvested, cancer gotten, abducted multiple times, life threatened, dog eaten, clone daughter found and then dead, mysterious messiah baby, partner leaving you and writing you notes addressed "Dearest Dana" COULD YOUR LIFE BE WORSE? And to add insult to injury we sure see a lot more of Mulder crying alone in the dark than you. Haha, don't burden us with your silly lady emotions, a MAN is sad.
5) In the same vein, sometimes everything on the show is so SRS BZNS that it's hilarious. Skinner is always stalking around yelling for no reason! Take it down a notch, man! Haha and I seem to remember a quote from Duchovny about how when he has to deliver lines about sewer monsters it is diminishing to him as a human and as an actor and lololololol it's so true, I actually feel bad for the actors in those moments when they have to very seriously deliver very very silly lines.
6) When the show doesn't take itself seriously, though, it is SUCH A DELIGHT. Bad Blood, the Dreamlands, Small Potatoes, etc -- all of those episodes are actually even better than I remembered and I didn't think that was possible. Apparently I could not overhype them to myself enough.
7) I have actually been thinking seriously about writing a Parks and Rec X-Files AU while I've been watching, with Leslie as the Mulder, because I am intrigued by the idea of a gender-swap there. So I've been imagining a lady getting to be as big an a-hole as Mulder often is, all brilliant and tortured and driven by the TRUTH, always vindicated, excused for all her nonsense, in a world where her male partner Ben Wyatt gets abducted and his sperm is taken and he gets cancer and the whole focus being on how sad this makes Leslie, the weight of the world on her shoulders, etc, and OH MAN, it is a weirdly satisfying, Mary-Sue-ish fantasy. Like, WAY more satisfying than I ever thought it would be. I can understand why men HAVE this fantasy and put it on TV so much, dude, it's awesome! You're the protagonist, you can be as big a dick as you want! Everything is about you! It's men who are reproductively violated, while you are just sad about how you couldn't save them! Ugh, it's kind of GREAT, I want to live there and roll around in it. You all should try it as a thought experiment, honestly, it is sort of revelatory.
All right, I'm going to use that last point to segue into a discussion of Parks and Rec from last week, because a week late is how I like my episode reactions:
The Treaty -- I think this episode was like the funniest one of the show ever, God, I laughed so hard. Also I find Leslie and Ben way sexier when they're yelling at each other -- I don't know what that says about me. I just want them to angry-bang at some point.
(Also I totally understand where Ben's coming from, but he's being kind of a dick with the mixed messages about whether they can be friends or not. I don't really get why he gets to set all the terms of the relationship -- like, when Leslie asks HIM out in Soulmates, he says no, but when he asks HER out in Road Trip, that's when they start dating. He breaks up with her, he says whether or not they can spend time together afterwards, etc, etc. Also she takes all the risks, with her career and otherwise -- I mean, she asked him out first, not knowing for sure if he liked her, whereas he didn't ask her out until after Ann had EXPLICITLY TOLD HIM that Leslie liked him. Oh, Ben Wyatt, you are no Gryffindor, bless your heart.)
Oh, also I REALLY liked Ann telling Chris off about their relationship. I find Ann kind of boring when she's being a pushover and not that passionate about anything, so I am really on board with this trend of her being excited about things, like fixing stuff with Ron, and her standing up for herself. (Hahaha, remember that time she finally yelled at April in Flu Season, and April's like, "That's the most I've ever liked Ann"? It was the most I've ever liked Ann too.)
ALSO now I desperately want a high school AU where Leslie and April are best friends, so there's that.
I've also been thinking lately about Leslie Knope and her flaws, since some random bloggers have been complaining that she's too saintly or something. (Which is so weird. She totally has TONS of flaws, it's just that the show doesn't think she deserves to be constantly put down for them, unlike how practically every other show on TV treats women. So maybe that's why it's confusing for people.)
I think what I love about Leslie and her flaws is that they are all, like, childlike flaws, in what is somehow a very appealing way -- she's impulsive and passionate and loses her temper very unself-critically. I feel like post-puberty so many women are socialized to not express negative emotions, or at least to be really... what is the word. Like, circumspect or careful about expressing them.
But the way Leslie Knope gets mad -- man, that is the way a little girl gets mad. She is totally not worried about whether her feelings are legitimate, or whether she's being unreasonable, or about anyone thinking she's a bitch. She just scrunches up her face and loses her shit, and threatens to waterboard a teenage boy, or declares war on the country of Peru, or knocks files out of Mark Brendanawicz's hands. I GUESS I'VE BEEN PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME WRONG ALL THESE YEARS, MARK BRENDANA-QUITS.
Basically I feel like Leslie Knope (and, honestly, a little bit Amy Poehler) are what would happen if a girl was allowed to get through puberty with her real self intact, instead of getting relentlessly socialized to be whatever an acceptable woman is supposed to be, and that is kind of great.
(Oh Poehler: "I like that age, where you’re not quite into boys yet and really think you can be an astronaut, a teacher, a doctor and a roller skater. That girl and I live in the same world.” MARRY ME.)
Anyway, here are some reflections on my very first fandom, more than 15 years after it first aired (augh):
1) The show totally holds up, even with their '90s hair and weird awkward flirting that sometimes comes off as a hostile work environment, MULDER. (It is weird to watch older media sometimes, I saw a couple things from the '80s lately, which I do not think of as super old, and boy, the '80s sure played fast and loose with issues of consent, didn't they? NO MEANS NO, BILL MURRAY IN GHOSTBUSTERS.)
2) That being said, I think Chris Carter wanted Mulder and Scully to come off as super smart, which seems to mean "talking like they are robots." No one uses the word "perhaps" in conversations with their mother, Scully! Some of the writing is SO CLUNKY, especially -- haha, remember those horrible voiceovers about, like, the nature of the universe? Those are STILL THE WORST. Chris Carter, stop hurting the English language like that, what did it ever do to you.
3) I had kind of forgotten how very consciously post-Watergate the show is, in a way that comes off really dated now. Sometimes the whole show makes me think, oh, 1990s, things were so good you had to INVENT things to be upset about, that's adorable. Also, like... I know the whole post-Watergate mentality is generally thought of as a very cynical one, but it weirdly comes off to me as really naive now? Like, there are times when Mulder rants about how the truth will come out and the American people will never tolerate it, etc! And my reaction to that is, "Yeah, right, like the truth coming out ever stops anything." Ha ha? I was thinking about whether that's, like, idk, a post-9/11 mentality, but I actually think it's a post-2008-economic-collapse mentality. Oh, everyone knows that Wall Street crashed the economy, but... nothing's going to change? Great!
(Actually, as an aside, I feel like we are so post-9/11 now that we're actually post-post-9/11, in that if I never hear the phrase "post-9/11" again it will be too soon. Also, is anybody watching the show Homeland? Super good show, but it actually strikes me as post-9/11 in a way that is a little bit dated, like it would've felt more timely 5 years ago. Like, ugh, really, we're still worrying about terrorists? I'm actually worried about getting a job, but okay.)
4) God, Scully gets a bum deal in this show. (Haha, hilariously I vividly remember arguing on the internet when I was like 15 that Mulder got kidnapped just as much as Scully, it wasn't sexist! Lolol oh young me, there is just so much I need to tell you about, but tragically I cannot.) And riddle me this, internet: why does every single lady ever on a genre show have to get reproductively assaulted in some way? (Subset question: Why does every lady on a procedural or possibly every other genre eventually realize that all she wants in the world are babies? TIRED TROPE, TELEVISION. TIRED.) But ah, Scully. Family members murdered, ova harvested, cancer gotten, abducted multiple times, life threatened, dog eaten, clone daughter found and then dead, mysterious messiah baby, partner leaving you and writing you notes addressed "Dearest Dana" COULD YOUR LIFE BE WORSE? And to add insult to injury we sure see a lot more of Mulder crying alone in the dark than you. Haha, don't burden us with your silly lady emotions, a MAN is sad.
5) In the same vein, sometimes everything on the show is so SRS BZNS that it's hilarious. Skinner is always stalking around yelling for no reason! Take it down a notch, man! Haha and I seem to remember a quote from Duchovny about how when he has to deliver lines about sewer monsters it is diminishing to him as a human and as an actor and lololololol it's so true, I actually feel bad for the actors in those moments when they have to very seriously deliver very very silly lines.
6) When the show doesn't take itself seriously, though, it is SUCH A DELIGHT. Bad Blood, the Dreamlands, Small Potatoes, etc -- all of those episodes are actually even better than I remembered and I didn't think that was possible. Apparently I could not overhype them to myself enough.
7) I have actually been thinking seriously about writing a Parks and Rec X-Files AU while I've been watching, with Leslie as the Mulder, because I am intrigued by the idea of a gender-swap there. So I've been imagining a lady getting to be as big an a-hole as Mulder often is, all brilliant and tortured and driven by the TRUTH, always vindicated, excused for all her nonsense, in a world where her male partner Ben Wyatt gets abducted and his sperm is taken and he gets cancer and the whole focus being on how sad this makes Leslie, the weight of the world on her shoulders, etc, and OH MAN, it is a weirdly satisfying, Mary-Sue-ish fantasy. Like, WAY more satisfying than I ever thought it would be. I can understand why men HAVE this fantasy and put it on TV so much, dude, it's awesome! You're the protagonist, you can be as big a dick as you want! Everything is about you! It's men who are reproductively violated, while you are just sad about how you couldn't save them! Ugh, it's kind of GREAT, I want to live there and roll around in it. You all should try it as a thought experiment, honestly, it is sort of revelatory.
All right, I'm going to use that last point to segue into a discussion of Parks and Rec from last week, because a week late is how I like my episode reactions:
The Treaty -- I think this episode was like the funniest one of the show ever, God, I laughed so hard. Also I find Leslie and Ben way sexier when they're yelling at each other -- I don't know what that says about me. I just want them to angry-bang at some point.
(Also I totally understand where Ben's coming from, but he's being kind of a dick with the mixed messages about whether they can be friends or not. I don't really get why he gets to set all the terms of the relationship -- like, when Leslie asks HIM out in Soulmates, he says no, but when he asks HER out in Road Trip, that's when they start dating. He breaks up with her, he says whether or not they can spend time together afterwards, etc, etc. Also she takes all the risks, with her career and otherwise -- I mean, she asked him out first, not knowing for sure if he liked her, whereas he didn't ask her out until after Ann had EXPLICITLY TOLD HIM that Leslie liked him. Oh, Ben Wyatt, you are no Gryffindor, bless your heart.)
Oh, also I REALLY liked Ann telling Chris off about their relationship. I find Ann kind of boring when she's being a pushover and not that passionate about anything, so I am really on board with this trend of her being excited about things, like fixing stuff with Ron, and her standing up for herself. (Hahaha, remember that time she finally yelled at April in Flu Season, and April's like, "That's the most I've ever liked Ann"? It was the most I've ever liked Ann too.)
ALSO now I desperately want a high school AU where Leslie and April are best friends, so there's that.
I've also been thinking lately about Leslie Knope and her flaws, since some random bloggers have been complaining that she's too saintly or something. (Which is so weird. She totally has TONS of flaws, it's just that the show doesn't think she deserves to be constantly put down for them, unlike how practically every other show on TV treats women. So maybe that's why it's confusing for people.)
I think what I love about Leslie and her flaws is that they are all, like, childlike flaws, in what is somehow a very appealing way -- she's impulsive and passionate and loses her temper very unself-critically. I feel like post-puberty so many women are socialized to not express negative emotions, or at least to be really... what is the word. Like, circumspect or careful about expressing them.
But the way Leslie Knope gets mad -- man, that is the way a little girl gets mad. She is totally not worried about whether her feelings are legitimate, or whether she's being unreasonable, or about anyone thinking she's a bitch. She just scrunches up her face and loses her shit, and threatens to waterboard a teenage boy, or declares war on the country of Peru, or knocks files out of Mark Brendanawicz's hands. I GUESS I'VE BEEN PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME WRONG ALL THESE YEARS, MARK BRENDANA-QUITS.
Basically I feel like Leslie Knope (and, honestly, a little bit Amy Poehler) are what would happen if a girl was allowed to get through puberty with her real self intact, instead of getting relentlessly socialized to be whatever an acceptable woman is supposed to be, and that is kind of great.
(Oh Poehler: "I like that age, where you’re not quite into boys yet and really think you can be an astronaut, a teacher, a doctor and a roller skater. That girl and I live in the same world.” MARRY ME.)
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THIS. I turned to my husband at some point during the Model UN and said "This episode will end with the diplomats from Denmark and Peru holing up in a hotel for a long weekend to 'settle their differences', after which they will be the united country of Denpru, at least until the civil war."
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remember how if you missed something that was just too bad? Unless you could find someone on a Prodigy X-Files message board who would send you a VHS tape in the mail?)
AHAHAH!!! yes. I remember this one TNG finale that I missed the second half of and I HAVE NEVER FORGOTTEN MY RAGE.
er.. not sure I ever did manage to watch that ep, come to think.
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I wish angry-bang were its own category on Yuletide.
I don't think it's even possible to overstate how influential X-Files was to 12-year-old me and who I became as, like, a TV watcher and a member of fandom? Al was singing 'Beyond the Sea' the other day and I was like, SCULLY'S DAD! SCULLY'S DAD! and he was like, "...Finding Nemo?" And I watched my relationship fall apart.
Also, Tooms is the dude that married that 16 year old. Let me just crawl through some bile on a show and then 15 years later marry a girl that was born while I was doing that. Just, what.
ME TOO, I would read all the angry-banging in the world.
ALSO OMG TOOMS DOING THAT TRAUMATIZED ME SO BADLY, I was like, oh good, I totally know who this creepster is and am disappointed in him? Great.
Re: ME TOO, I would read all the angry-banging in the world.
Re: ME TOO, I would read all the angry-banging in the world.
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This is basically the entirety of my thoughts about last week's P&R. Well, plus that moment when Leslie and April are sitting in front of the lockers smiling at each other in anticipation of graduation and a kick-ass summer is one of my favourite moments on the show.
man, that is the way a little girl gets mad. She is totally not worried about whether her feelings are legitimate, or whether she's being unreasonable, or about anyone thinking she's a bitch.
I hadn't thought about this but it's true. Although reading about why it's great/special to see is super depressing.
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Ugh I knoooow, it makes me so happy that Leslie is so unselfconscious about anger, etc, but it bums me out how selfconscious *I* am about my emotions. DDD: OH WELL.
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*Best story ever: I wrote Vince Gilligan a dorky fan letter when I was 17, and he sent me a note back along with a signed script of that episode. When my mom called me at my friend's house to say I had a big package with a 1013 return label I almost choked to death on squee.
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Omg VINCE GILLIGAN WROTE YOU BACK?????????? I-I have possibly never been this jealous of anyone in my life.
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Lol Gillian was on a talk show thing in Australia recently promoting her Johnny English movie, and one of the presenters said the show began "almost twenty years ago" and she like visibly reacted, and was totally flummoxed. She was like, I've never heard anyone say that before! Twenty years! Oh Gillian.
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♪ David Duchovny, why won't you love me? ♫
My reaction to that is to pour a large whiskey and try not to get too many tears in it. But otherwise, yeah, that.
I found the first four seasons of X-Files on DVD for, like, eight bucks apiece last year, so of course I bought them. And in a year where I got married, my younger sister had a baby, my little brother got engaged, and I actually sat down with my boss and talked about my ~*~career plans~*~, nothing gave me the psychological "oh shit, I'm an adult now" slap in the face like realizing I was older than Gillian Anderson was in Season 1.
Nerrrrrrrrd.
THAT SONG WAS SO GOOD remember the cast-made video to it?
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(Actually I have, like, 1000 words of a high school AU where Ben and Leslie are stepsiblings, based on a prompt my friend left on the kinkmeme for me, but then someone else started writing that prompt and I felt like probably the fandom didn't need TWO stepsib AUs, hahaha.)
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BEAUTIFUL 2 ME. I want so much for the Poehler/Knope archetype to become the next manic pixie dream girl. BECOME OBSESSED WITH THIS, PLEASE, HOLLYWOOD. I will sit through a zillion movies about them, I promise.
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Def agree on Ben's mixed messages. He was super excited to partake in the whole in the whole Nations project and then five minutes later it's I JUST CAN'T DO THIS, STOP BEING OBTUSE, LESLIE. Oh Benjamin.
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i would edit my broken record weirdness but apparently you cannae without a paid account. !@##$% lj.
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Absolutely. This. Ann spent most of this season - up until Meet 'n Greet, at least, looking confused and put-upon. I was really concerned that was the direction the writers were going in for her this season, but the Halloween party restored my faith. I loved her slowly gaining Ron's respect, especially since he and April spent that episode refusing to speak to Ann. (That really bugged me, despite how much I love Ron and April. It seemed unnecessarily mean to me. Like she wasn't actually worth their time.)
But the way Leslie Knope gets mad -- man, that is the way a little girl gets mad. She is totally not worried about whether her feelings are legitimate, or whether she's being unreasonable, or about anyone thinking she's a bitch. She just scrunches up her face and loses her shit, and threatens to waterboard a teenage boy, or declares war on the country of Peru, or knocks files out of Mark Brendanawicz's hands. I GUESS I'VE BEEN PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME WRONG ALL THESE YEARS, MARK BRENDANA-QUITS.
Basically I feel like Leslie Knope (and, honestly, a little bit Amy Poehler) are what would happen if a girl was allowed to get through puberty with her real self intact, instead of getting relentlessly socialized to be whatever an acceptable woman is supposed to be, and that is kind of great.
It's amazing. She's actually honest with her emotions; you don't have to worry she's suppressing something because she's supposed to be polite. (Unless, of course, we're at a town hall meeting, or something else to do with her job. She may be emotionally honest, but she is never unprofessional.) She makes me want to do the same. :-D
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Yessssssss, never unprofessional at all, but so emotionally honest! It is weird how aspirational it is, I totally want to be like that too.
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Could not agree more, oh man. X-Files, my heart. (However, I honestly do feel my favorite serious episodes - mainly Pusher and Paper Hearts - hold up really well too. Thank god.)
Also, re: Homeland, Howard Gordon is apparently one of the writers. LOL THERE YOU GO!
Basically I feel like Leslie Knope (and, honestly, a little bit Amy Poehler) are what would happen if a girl was allowed to get through puberty with her real self intact, instead of getting relentlessly socialized to be whatever an acceptable woman is supposed to be, and that is kind of great.
I think you have hit the nail squarely on the head re: why Leslie (and Amy) are such appealing feminist icons right now, whether they even want to be or not. But it is definitely kind of great, no argument here. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITHOUT TIDES, PERU?
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THE ONLY THING I'LL BE WAVING IS YOUR DECAPITATED HEAD IN FRONT OF YOUR WEEPING MOTHER! Ugh, I love Leslie Knope so muuuuuuuch.
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I was like 16 and so in love with that show even though my family didn't own a TV. I would spend hours on this super sarcastic message board called Church of X (does anyone remember that site? Or perhaps I should ask if anyone remembers message boards.)
Your list in #6 needs to include Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose. I still find all other television inferior (I've built that ep up a lot over the years....)
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I love Leslie so muuuuuuuch. And omg, Mark Brandana-quits coming back would make my LIFE -- I really want Dave the cop to come back for a guest appearance too, so many great old characters!
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(I wish Chris would just disappear down a manhole or something, but I'm on board with Ann telling him what an ass he is).
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(Ugh, I know, Chris is the worst and serving no purpose lately, but Ann yelling at him at least makes him slightly worthwhile in that episode. NOW WRITE HIM OFF, PARKS.)
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Anyway! I was informed by his parents that Jeremy always went to bed by 8PM and I would be free to watch TV after that in the one tiny set they kept in the kitchen, and since by that point I'd been baby-sitting kids in the neighborhood for a few years I thought it would be fine because I was such an awesome babysitter. And then Jeremy turned into a TOTAL TERROR, refusing to go to bed or be cooperative in any way. I can remember the moment when I realized it was after 9PM - I was standing at the bottom of the stairs dodging the Matchbox cars Jeremy was hurling at me from the upstairs landing because he didn't want to go to bed - and I knew I was missing One Breath and oh! THE DESPAIR! Because like you said, back then, if you missed an episode you Missed An Episode! Even though I know I caught the episode at some point later, in syndication, it still feels to me like I never really saw the episode when I was supposed to, the way I was supposed to, you know? I don't know if I'll ever fannishly love anything the way I my fourteen-year-old self loved Mulder and Scully.
Basically I feel like Leslie Knope (and, honestly, a little bit Amy Poehler) are what would happen if a girl was allowed to get through puberty with her real self intact, instead of getting relentlessly socialized to be whatever an acceptable woman is supposed to be, and that is kind of great.
Love this description of Leslie, you totally got at what makes her character so wonderful and lovable and inspiring to me.
In conclusion, that Parks and Rec X Files AU sounds AMAZING.